Wednesday, April 04, 2007

" NO MORE DAMN MALLS ..... BUT LOTS MORE CONDOS "

Good Morning People of Earth! .......... Well it has finely come full circle. The era of the Mall has passed. That mega shopping mart where you could find just about anything, just like the old time general store, but bigger! I am not against Malls, they do serve a convenience to the community, though they can be blamed for the demise of a lot of local small stores that couldn't afford the mall rents and there-by the exposure to the shopping public..... But alas it has come to it's end because of that very reason.....Mall Owners Greed.....the driving force in our society today.... if you ain't greedy you ain't going nowhere! Anyway..... You could say that by continual raising of the rents they drove out the very people they needed to stay in business? Go figure?
We now have entered the era, (again) mainly because of economic pressures on the communities, to re-open those small stores again but within the community. Lower rents, for now anyway, are the driving force but if history repeats itself then it will be back to that old stan-by....The Catalog Store!
Now on to the Condo issue......... Why do we need more Condos? Ain't we got plenty of empty ones now? Talk to the hand here people! Another nagging Question...If the outfit is going to buy the French Church Complex en-mass, pun intended, why is the Mayor involved? Wasn't that his argument that no one wanted to buy the whole package, so we were stepping in to help out? John...what is going on? Talk to the hand Mr. Mayor! Or better yet talk HONESTLY to the City Council! It will be interesting to see if anyone on the Council has the balls to ask that Question of the Mayor! OK...It's Your Dime!

9 comments:

Amy said...

Can the mayor get a finder's fee?

Anonymous said...

Could it be the Mayor is involved because of the 10K purchase agreement the city signed? If the CAC bought the building from the owner there is no guarantee they would get it for the same price and the city would be out 10K. By having the city exercise the agreement and sell to the CAC everybody wins - no?

Southview said...

I think there is more here than meets the eye. If it looks like a fish, smells like a fish, then damn it, must be a fish....and this looks truly fishy!

Anonymous said...

I don't see anything fishy here at all----with the City purchasing the properties---we have control --if the properties are purchased from the City- singularly or together---- the Mayor wants to preserve the steeple and that can be written into the deed when we sell it to a developer---also allows control over what the properties will be used for---there may be zoning questions that will have to be addressed---having the properties initially in the hands of the City---can expedite that process---the diocese has no interest in any aspect of preservation or use of the properties-- they just want to sell-----better to have City control than that of the diocese when it comes to re-sale of the properties-- and that was spelled out fairly well at the Council meeting when we approved the twn grand-- the only fish here is Southview--- CARPing about the Mayor and Council-- LOL--- chbpod

DWPittelli said...

I'm not a huge fan of city direct involvement in real estate deals. But I think its role here was that it was the one entity that had an incentive to come up with the $10,000 for the fixed-price purchase option, and without tipping anyone's hand as to interest.

And provided they set the price wisely, they can now help a private developer to get its financing and plans lined up, knowing that it has a firm buying price and a set amount of time to make the deal (neither of which the seller would promise a potential buyer, without some downpayment or this $10,000 purchase option).

So the city's $10,000 move might actually help the development get going, as well as give the city authority to require that the steeple remain.

Southview said...

chbpod.....Yes, I can agree with trying to preserve the steeples and any historical structure in the City. But The City, through their power, can stipulate that anyone that purchases any historical building maintain certain aspects of the structure. If it isn't already on the City Books...The council should put it there!
Historically the mayor has not been completely truthful or forth coming with the details of anything he proposes. He tells the council what he wants them to hear and expects them to fall in line. He does not want a partner in governing the City and never has. The council is the peoples voice in their participation in running this City and the mayor should listen.....of course you have to get members of the council to ask questions first, which they seem to be afraid to do, ergo: "The Wrath of John Berrett Descend on Thee" and no Christmas Card this year!
I don't like CARPing on the mayor or the Council,... well maybe I do,... but I only can make conclusions from what I read in the papers, see on television, and hear the mayor say......and it still smells fishy!

Anonymous said...

Holy Mackerel! The only thing fishy about this deal is why anyone would oppose it. If someone has an alternative, now is the time to put up or shut up. Letting the thieves in the legal and real estate devision of dunkin donuts bulldoze it down, to build another clusterkuck intersection, just to sell weak coffee for $2 a cup and $4 lattes in the name of low wage job creation is stupid!

Anonymous said...

Hi Jack,

I'm trying to be very wary of pissing in other people's comment threads, but I want to follow up the conversation in Wes' thread. If you want to continue the conversation, stop by my blog.

We are all guaranteed life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness but we aren't guaranteed that the status quo won't change in the future.

I've gotten priced out of neighborhoods when developers tore down shitty ranches and put up half million dollar townhouses. I don't begrudge the new owners, the developers or the older owners who knew it was time to get out (I may have been a bit pissy that my lot wasn't big enough to allow me to cash in like they did), but neighborhoods turnover, and to live in a home and not expect that over time "things may change" seems a bit unreasonable.

Anonymous said...

More high quality residential (e.g. downtown condos) = more of a support base for retail = more vibrant downtown. I'm pretty sure we all want a vibrant downtown.

The city stepping in to preserve historic structures downtown is just common sense. It is pretty obvious that people aren't coming here for the jobs, so it figures that they are coming here because it is nice here. It is up to the city to keep it nice.